SOUND
SYSTEMS
(excerpts
from posts to Storytell)
1)
I'll start with our sound system. http://www.fenderaudio.com/
Check out the Fender Passport Deluxe PD-250. We paid $800 and
it has been wonderful for any size audience indoors or outdoors.
The speakers are by Bose. The poles are extra. You can read all
the details on the website.
2) Following is a compilation from Storytell when this was discussed
in 2002.
I have had wonderful results with "The Sound Bag." It
is portable with an American Tourister bag for carrying. Since
then I have also purchased a headphone set. The basic set costs
$500.00 and then the other system was another $500.00. There may
be a cheaper model, but you can't beat this one for the sound
quality. I believe Steve Otto also uses this system. If you want
specifics I can try to find my paperwork.
3) Recommendations for Portable Sound Systems
This is the one I use, recommended by one of our tellers on list.
http://floridamagic.bizhosting.com/
Florida Magic Sekaku Portable PA Sound System with Wireless microphones
I have had good luck with it but another teller did share info
on another system that didn't cost too much more. He felt the
quality was better.
4) Recommendations for Portable Sound Systems
The one I use, and many other entertainers, is the Sekaku unit
available from Florida Magic. At 5 pounds and one piece (the wireless
receiver is built in works on the pro frequencies not the lower
ones the cheap units work on) it comes with a clip and headset
Mic. There is an input for tape, CD, etc. and an output to another
system so you can use a familiar Mic even with a venue's system.
It is powerful, I've used it in gyms, auditoriums, churches, etc.
It the venue is too big then they probably have their own system.
There is an optional battery pack which I have and use sometimes
at outdoor venues. It id small and light enough to fit in my regular
case. You can see it and get a pix of it and link to Florida Magic
at my "Tips for Performers" web site.
http://www.drango.com/tips
Click on "Mic and Amp Issues". This unit is very popular
with Ventriloquists, magicians. kid show entertainers, etc. Probably
one of the best investments I ever made and under $400.
5) Chuck Larkin Editor of following Recommendations for Portable
Sound Systems
Comments on the Use of Sound Equipment includes:
1.) Cheap PA Sound Systems and portable power for Storytellers:
Chuck Larkin, Bill Rexroad "Soundbag" and Steve Otto.
2.) PA Sound Systems for Musicians Includes comments from Mike
Anderson, Dan Kedding and Paul Recker.
Gregory Alan Harris, Robert Mouland.
3.) Proper use of the microphone: Chuck Larkin.
4.) Lapel {Wireless and/or wired} Mikes - Use and Clothing Issues:
Chuck Larkin.
5.) Comments and Advice concerning Lapel Mikes: Papa Joe and David
Glick
6.) The Wireless Headset mike: Tim Jennings
7.) Latest State of the Art in a Flesh Colored Wireless Headset,
worn next to the ear or at the hairline.
Cheap, PA Systems for Storytelling
For small space that needs sound amplification I use a small PA
about the size of a standard book called a "PIGNOSE" (The name and the one controlling knob is designed to resemble
a Pig's nose). These are electric or use {6} AA battery cells.
The Pignose is small enough to hang on your belt. When purchasing
insure that the battery eliminator for electricity works without
static and if necessary have the dealer provide the new replacement
from the Pignose company. A quality control problem evolved when
production was shifted to an overseas factory.
In Florida at the annual statewide Storytelling Camp in 1998 all
power was lost during the main concert. The "Pignose"
filled a 400 seat hall with adequate sound on batteries. We used
a Jump Starter battery to light the hall with a spot light clipped
on top of a flag pole. Battery operated PAs have a limited use
time before static problems and this varies with type of PA. Therefor
I recommend acquiring one of the new men's toys. It is a portable
"JUMP-STARTER" (modeled after a car battery) that cannot
only jump start cars but with the adapter can operate any type
of 12 volt power equipment and is rechargeable. I can count on
a full day of Battery supported quality sound with the PA's batteries
as backup or light my home reading lamp and radio during a power
outage.
For larger Space I use a solo portable sound system from Peavey
Electronics that is 15 Watts on electricity or 10 Watts when run
on 8 "D" cell batteries. I also recommend a Storyteller
carry a portable microphone stand and microphone when the performing
venue has a PA System. Schools for example may have a quality
PA System but poor quality microphone stand and microphone.
6) Bill Rexroad, Soundbag, 100 watts of audio power, weighs 18
lb., two inputs for microphone and instrument, volume controls,
standard or wireless microphones. Optional equipment: Battery
Power Pack, wireless microphones, Auxiliary speaker, fold-up speaker
stand, fold-up microphone stand.
Contact: Design Services, L.L.C. 300 Crescent Blvd. Hutchinson,
KS 67502
Phone/Fax 316-663-9749 E-mail: designservices@webtv.net
7) Steve Otto recommends "...the Galaxy Audio, PA 5X 140
from the 'Soudbag' system. It has 100 watts of power and sounds
great. It will completely fill a large school gym. Volume level
3 (of 10) and the kids could get into the whispers of the storytelling
without being blasted out by the loud parts. PLUS the quality
of the reproduction is fantastic for such a small unit. It is
only 14 inches wide by 6X8. I carry it in a cosmetic case
that also holds my wireless mic and receiver, a hand held mic
and cables. If you need more information about the Sound Bag system
contact Bill Rexroad at rexroad1@webtv.net ..."
8) Paul Recker
RE: "...the Gallien Krueger MV200 (a 100 watt mini pa). GK
no longer makes that unit but, according to their Website Feedback,
they will have the 200MV again in early 1999." PA Sound Systems
for Musicians
9) Dan Keding
"... I use a Gallien Krueger mini p.a. system. ..."
(Note the comment by Paul Recker and Gregory Alan Harris at bottom
of Mike Anderson's comments) "...It has about 100 watts of
power and can easily fill a high school gym with great sound.
I also play guitar and banjo and it is just perfect for storytelling
and music. I know that Heather Forest uses one as does Bill Harley
(I think). I've used mine for about five years and it has been
great. Its best to get them through catalogue houses. The price
is high but it will give you great sound and be reliable. Expect
to pay about $500 to $600 for a new one through the mail or less
than $300 for a used one."
10) Mike Anderson
On the topic of sound systems, if you are able to spend a few
extra bucks ($600) I heartily recommend the Galien Krueger (GK)
MV200....It has 100 watts of power and will allow you to do outdoor
shows as well as fill a gym with sound. I am a musician as well
as a storyteller and the GK allows me to run 3 mikes or plug my
instruments directly into the amp. The unit is small, maybe 12x12x15
and weighs around 15 pounds. Mine has shown itself to be durable
and flexible. It is not battery powered, it does need a plug.
It can be purchased with an optional carrying bag, which I also
recommend. Dan Keding and I have used ours for years now. The
best price I found was through a mail order house called Musician's
Friend."
11) Gregory Alan Harris
RE: "... Fender has just come out with a system which is
designed as an easy-to-carry, snap-together P.A. which is more
powerful than the Gallien-Krueger for about the same price (through
Musician's friend, about $640). It is 250 Watts, with four (4)
microphone/line inputs, a built-in mixer, and it comes with two
microphones and all the necessary speaker and microphone cables.
The microphones were described as "okay" by the music
store people; they thought they'd be fine for storytelling. This
system is called the Fender Passport...there is a 60-watt system
by Kustom (called the Kustom 7) which is half the price and has
all the basic features you'd need (but doesn't come with microphones).
12) Robert Mouland
RE: "...I land on the side of overkill. I am primarily a
musician, and while I currently play the quiet and gentle music
of Ireland and Scotland, I have a dark past... a rock'n'roll past.
The one thing I learned in performing for over 30 years: Show
up with more than you need. Folks have mentioned some fine systems
for about $600. Mine cost half that, and it is 250 watts. I have
a Samson power mixer ( 4 channels), a Sure microphone and two
Fender 10 speaker cabs with horns. It nicely powers my harpsichord,
wireharp, whistle fiddle and hurdy-gurdy... If you can find them,
get a pair of those big ugly "elevate your speaker" stands. Mine are plastic and cost me $99 for the pair. They are
the single best prevention of feedback I know of..."
13) PROPER USE OF THE MICROPHONE
Chuck Larkin
NOTE! When you go on stage adjust the microphone and stand to
your height with the microphone just below your chin and speak
over the microphone not directly into the microphone. MCs note!
An MC should not leave the stage until the mike is adjusted for
the performer. Do not put the mike in front of your mouth like
a singer on TV. Singers have different breath control but not
all singers and many have performance errors. If a storyteller
or singer has the mike in front of their mouth they will pop their "Ps & Ds" and send the "Ss" into the bones
of the listener. The reason is these sounds expel air into the
microphone. Place the microphone below your lips so that you are
speaking over the microphone face and not directly into the microphone
face. If you hear yourself pop the "P" then lower the
mike! Check to see if the microphone is on by scratching the microphone
or quietly say "testing." Do not blow moisture into
the mike! No matter how often you have seen other folks do that!
Keep the microphone, between your mouth and he specific eye contact
areas of the audience. These elements should be in a straight
line. When you use a stationary microphone, move your body around
the microphone as you vary your audience eye contact, always maintaining
the mouth-mike-eye contact area line. This technique provides
a constant level of amplified sound. If you turn your head sideways
without moving either your body or the microphone then the public
address system does not amplify your voice at a consistent level.
14) TWO BASIC TYPES OF MICROPHONES
Chuck Larkin
You need to be aware of two basic types of microphones the omni-directional
which picks up sound all around the head and the uni-directional
which picks up sound from only the top of the head. Scratch the
mike on top and on the sides if the same volume it is omni - if
it is different it is uni - If you follow these directions you
will not have a problem. The omni-directional mike picks up and
transmits sound from the performing area and if you perform in
a noisy place {school cafeterias or passing traffic and trains}
all the sounds will be amplified. Therefore, if you are acquiring
your first mike for storytelling then you should acquire a uni-directional
which will only amplify your voice from the top face. Adjust the
mike level when you go on stage if it is at the wrong height but
once it is set do not touch the mike or mike stand unless you
need to readjust. When you are able, you may wish to acquire an
omni-directional as your second microphone. The omni directional
microphone does have one additional value. If you are unable to
acquire the talent skill to move your eye contact and maintain
a straight line: mouth, mike, and eye contact point, and you are
unwilling to learn then you may need to start with an omni-mike.
15) LAPEL {WIRELESS OR WIRED} MIKES AND HOW TO USE.
Chuck Larkin
Important: Always Clip the mike below the chin in the middle of
your shoulders. Do not clip the mike on either side of your clothes.
Only when the mike is in the middle will you maintain some consistency
in your volume amplification level. If placed too low then you
have to project more with your voice. When the mike is clipped
on the side then when the teller turns their head to the opposite
side away from the mike the voice drops below the audience's earshot
level or at least listening comfort level. When you use this style
mike then you must train yourself to turn your body during audience
eye contact or character body language so that there is a constant
line between your mouth, the mike, and the audience you are facing.
Every time you turn your head sideways increase your voice volume
projection to the degree necessary to offset the drop off of sound
through the mike to the amplifier. When using gestures, do not
hit your upper body unless you want the "thump" sound
amplified. Clothing: In order to avoid static electricity use
cotton material and shoes with leather soles or Neoprene soles.
Avoid Rayon, Nylon and any type of Perm-A-Press clothing and avoid
rubber soles like sneakers. They generate static electricity which
is picked up by the mike. Women speakers and Storytellers: Plan
your performing outfit with the attachment of the mike in mind.
Avoid low cut gowns, strapless gowns or any bare chest top that
requires the mike to be clipped too far below your mouth, again
do not clip toward a shoulder. Avoid shawls and scarfs that will
shift in front of the mike as you move. Avoid any dangling jewelry
that may bump against the mike. Be extra sure that the material
of your outfit will allow a wireless mike to be clipped on and
not slip off. Remember the broadcasting unit, about the size of
a pack of cigarettes, also has to be attached to your outfit [usually
in the back] and attached securely so it doesn't fall. When in
a large auditorium, remember the sound check you do before the
performance will be lower when the room is full of listeners.
If you have a weak projecting voice do not assume the mike will
do your projecting. You have to continue a best effort voice projection.
If during a story passage you use a stage whisper, dip down your
head and whisper into the mike. When you look up, increase your
voice projection or look and only speak after you have reengaged
eye contact. Watch the audience's body language furthest from
the loud speakers for signs of listening problems {side conversations
etc.} and if they occur either increase your projection or unhook
the mike and hold it closer to your mouth.
16) Papa Joe's recommendation: If you decide to acquire a clip-on
wireless, then here's three pieces of advice:
1. Pay well for
it. The cheap ones are worthless.
2. Make sure it is has a True Diversity (TD) Receiver. Without
True Diversity, most professional sound people will not be interested
in hooking your mike up to their system. Think of it as a minimum
system requirement. Besides, TD will double your chances of getting
though the show without a problem. 3. Check and replace the batteries
often. Half charged batteries are not good enough to get through
a show.
17) David Glick's recommendation: Buy the highest quality you
can afford (audio-technic, etc.). You cannot afford to have frequency
noise, have it fail at a critical time, and you will not be disappointed
with the dynamic range. Our professional suggestion is to use
lavaliere mikes cabled to the mixer/amp when at all possible.
We also have/use wireless (audio-technic) successfully; however,
depending on the mixer/amp at the location you are telling, you
may have noise, hum, etc., which you cannot control. A lavaliere
mike (wired or wireless) still takes a little time to get use
to. Practice with it!!! For single performer events, most people
would be far better to use a cabled mike (even though they think
wireless is great stuff). Remember, it is the audience who has
to put up with the equipment quirks/failure and it is not good
policy to loose your audience. Also you must have a good understanding
of the mixer/amp you will be plugged into either way and the people/person
at the board. If you are going to buy a portable amp then test
them together under various conditions. If you are going to buy
a mike and amp do not forget to carry back up batteries for lavaliere
set (wired or wireless), a back up mike (if you really trust your
equipment, only one backup is necessary)! Spare cables, spare
connectors, extension cords, etc. Yes, this may seem like a lot
of stuff to carry, but your story will likely be told without
failures and without apologizing to your audience.
18) WIRELESS HEADSET MICROPHONE
TIM JENNINGS
The wireless headset mike has many of the advantages and few of
the disadvantages of both the lapel and handheld types. It has
become the standard choice for a variety of singers and talkers,
and it's worth your
consideration as a storyteller. Now that we've gotten used to
it, it's clear that the look is less intrinsically distracting
than that of a wand-mike, either handheld, or on a stand, or swapping
from one to the other. It's way smaller, it's off to the side,
and it does not restrict how you move your body, head, or hands.
The sound is intrinsically better than a lapel mike. The microphone
itself is bigger, and it takes the voice from your mouth, not
your chest. You don't have the lapel mike's problem of "when
I look down, my voice goes boom, when I look up, my voice goes
bust." You can cup the mike close to your mouth for "mike
effect" (like Cosby's "Noah!") and you can cup
your hand between the mike and your mouth if you want to shout
without blasting the sound system. The technology is maturing
quickly -- product demonstrators, singing drummers, line-dance
& aerobics instructors, country music stadium entertainers,
all use them hard, all over the country, every day -- the good
ones are sturdy and reliable, and with a very little EQ-dinking,
make you
sound as good as a handheld. They're still getting better, so
don't buy used, you'll be much happier with a new one. (This is
also true with speakers, by the way.) If you spend $500, you'll
get one that won't crap out, drop out, or make you sound like
you're talking on a bullhorn. You can spend more, and get a great
sound, and super-reliable wireless, but this is plenty good enough
for most. Use a new battery every time. Things change quickly
in the world of audio. For all your equipment, you are best advised
to ask around among local professional jazz, folk, and rock musicians,
and find out who's the best local store to buy equipment from,
and develop a relationship with them, and ask their advice. Let
your own ear be the final judge.
19) NEW STATE OF THE ART WIRELESS HEADPHONES
Beige in color very close to skin tones IS WORN NEXT TO EAR OR
AT EDGE OF HAIR LINE
Katy Grant & Chuck Larkin
"... A German company that appears to be the manufacture
for the headsets. Production, Kentucky Center For The Arts, provided
the following information. Feed Back is a problem so the storyteller
has to remain behind the speakers in order to avoid the feedback.
Placing the microphones nearly out of sight requires higher volume
contributing to feedback problems. German company - Sennheiser
Cost about - $300 sans speakers, Call local company in Louisville,
Kentucky at 502-566-0157 for additional information.
20) Linda Spitzer
Re: Recommendations for Portable Sound Systems
I have a Peavey that weighs about 5-6 pounds. It takes batteries
as well as electric outlet. It's not the most powerful, but the
few times I've needed it, and outdoors as well, it's been useful.
13) Karl Hallsten
I have an Apollo PA5000--about the size of shoe box--comes with
high quality wireless mic. Will take a second mic or it can be
hooked to a tape recorder--(for that I use a $25 Sony cassette.
The sound quality is excellent--it works on both ac and C-batteries.
I have also used it as a wireless mic to patch into a larger PA
system when a wireless was not available. I purchased mine 7 years
ago for $350. The last one I brokered was at $380. The mic is
a good quality mic for spoken word. The speaker quality is excellent.
They have upgrades in an PA5400 (about $500) and a PA6000 (about
$1000) ---these units are more widely available than the PA5000
I am very satisfied with my PA 5000 and have aided in the sale
of several others to storytellers, nursing homes, retirement centers
and clubs--all have liked the easy handling and extreem portability
--6 lbs comes with built in handle--self storing cord. --have
used it alot outdoors and in. I have compared it to several other
units costing much more and has better quality sound. However
I have a conference room mic i use most of the time with it. (cost
about 250 made by Williams Sound--it has exceptional clarity---picks
up anything in a 16' foot radius allowing much movement--use by
several tellers without switching mikes or tandem tellers, and
picks up audience response clearly. Bose produces a wonderfull
small pa system--larger than above but still portable with unbeatable
sound quality you expect from that company--I think it sells in
the $1200 range. I would think any dealer that handles Bose CD
players could get one for you.
14) 11/30/04 Query: I've got old posts about small PA systems, but here at my local music store, they suggested something called "MiniVox" made by Anchor. It runs on C batteries, and is very small but will fill a room. Anybody have any encounters with this one?
Lee-Ellen
Response: I bought the Roland Cube Guitar Amp. It runs on 6 AA batteries and I used it outside on a windy night with a good crowd of Boy Scouts and parents around a camp fire and they heard me just fine. It is only for one mic though. The cost was just over $100.00
Marcia
Response: I don't know how loud your voice is. I have a small system probably similar to that called Honeytone. Supposedly you can use it for small groups. I don't find it useful for that as I can project for those size venues without any amp. I use it for my CD player to give background/mood music for my shows at small venues. Any bigger venues I use the Florida Magic one piece 5 1/2 pound system. This covers up thru school gyms etc. All the venues that the Florida Magic can't handle have their own systems. The Florida Magic plays the CD music as well as built in wireless mic receiver. The Florida Magic is available at http://floridamagic.bizhosting.com/ and I highly recommend it. It slides into my performance case and a battery is available as well as it can be run from a cigarette lighter. I like to travel light and do not like multi piece sound systems. I used to use them but haven't for years since I got the Florida Magic system.
See also "Mic and Amp Issues" on my Tips Page
http://drango.com/tips/index.html
Bob
15) My friend just ordered a Big Mouth Voice Enhancer from
http://www.tophatprod.com/magic
Top Hat Productions. It fits on you in a fanny pack. Weighs 3 pounds. is rechargeable and lasts 12 hours. Cost $350 and $4 shipping, maybe it was $254. But go to their website and search for Big Mouth, enhance the little picture and it gives all the info. My friend Kathi says it is loud enough for a school cafeteria/auditorium. It should be great for outdoors. Has a head mike you wear.
Often I'll go and need a standing mike and don't have one, or they have a podium or they don't have what I need. I have a Peavy portable but it weighs 10 or more pounds and needs lots of batteries or the AC adaptor.And then I have a mike stand or my cordless.
Linda S.
16) You don't buy a storytelling sound system to blast out the audience! The whole purpose of a sound system is to enhance the vocal quality of the human voice so that the story can be understood by the audience. I personally use a small system put out by Galaxy. It is the P140. It is not the lightest system but carries a whopping 140 watts of power with a built in 5" liquid dampened speaker. I can fill a gymnasium, or enhance a 20' X 20' room. The sound quality is the best that I have found for the money. The unit cost is about $300. I use a Shure headset microphone which is available in either back or beige mic boom. It is high quality and stays in place without moving and my beige mic is not obtrusive as some of the old headset mics were. The mic is another $300 but worth is when you use it as much as I do.
I have used my Galaxy for seven years and the Shure for four. They stay in the trunk of my car and are dependable. I also have a small Pevey sound board which I can input up to six mics and my little portable CD player. It can be run on AC or batteries, and I use it with big crowds.
Steve O.
Response: Is this the same system?
http://store.tradehawk.com/gaaucopacopa.html
If so, it has a new designation as the Galaxy Audio PA5X140. It looks like a great one piece system... weight is 12.5 pounds. I suspect you can find a better price, but this was the best picture I could find.
Second Response: OK, here is the best price I could find - $289 plus free shipping:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--GXYPA5X140
That is free shipping, not free shilling. I charge for shilling myself, they probably do too.
Stephen H.
17) I love my Pignose amp. It has great sound, is tough and portable and has a nickel-cadmium battery pack that's rechargeable. It's cute too, with it's leather case and pignose-shaped on-off switch. It can run two mikes. And it was fairly inexpensive. I bought it on the internet after recommendations on Storytell a few years ago and have never been sorry.
I have a bigger system but the Pignose gives me versatility the bigger one precludes.
If you're interested in the Pignose amp, go to this website:
http://www.pignose.com/
The one I bought is about $125 (cheaper now than it was 2 years ago!). You'd have to add shipping, of
course.
Granny Sue
18) Query: Anyone in the group have experience with a portable microphone system? I want to purchase something that we can use at the library and away for storytelling events. I once used a lapel type mic that worked very well for me, since my telling style involves lots of dance and movement. Any input is welcome. I have several thousand dollars to spend and a grand opening coming up in early April.
Rebecca
Response:
Check out my "Tips for Performers" web site and click "Mic & Amp Issues".
http://drango.com/tips/index.html
Bob S.
19) Big Mouth Voice Enhancer
Top Hat Productions
401-467-8749
FX401 781-6729
WEBSITE Revlakmagic@cox.net It's $250, weighs only a few pounds, the size of a fanny pack and the amplifier comes right out of the belt.Can carry a very very large room or outdoors, completly portable and rechargeable. It's a miracle.The microphone is a head set, hardly noticeable.
If I got the website wrong go to google and look up Big Mouth or Top Hat
I can't say enough good things about it.
Linda S.
20) Anecdotal stories about using sound systems
Query: I think I need some more anecdotal material on sound systems to enliven the facts. . . . . when did a sound system help? When do you wish you had had one? Horror stories of a time when sound was inadequate . . .
Mary G.
Response: I'd like to add a question. When did a sound system NOT help? as in Did you ever prefer to use your own voice? or wish, in retrospect, you had?
Mary K.C.
Response: Yes, once I had a small room filled with preschoolers. The majority did not like the amplified voice as evidenced by their holding on to their ears during the performance.
I believe it was Tom McC. who advocated not using a sound system whenever possible. I think he thought tellers didn't exercise their voice adequately when they relied on the mic. Of course, he used it when in front of a ton of people but he preferred his own innate amplification. Having a mic is not a substitution for good projection, posture, and breath.
I think a mic is imperative when talking to any group with members over 50 years old. Even if they can hear the voice becomes "blurry." They have trouble distinguishing sound.
I can't tell you how many times I've gone into a situation where I praised the Lord (and my husband who bought it) for my sound system - the sound bag. Since the original system we added a headset that doubled the price. Then this past Christmas Santi (aka husband) bought me a beige head set so it wasn't so prominent. It also doesn't pop as much as the black one with the black sock on the end of the mouthpiece.
I don't do a lot of sound effects but my voice does a lot of modulation and soft sounds that would get lost without my sound system.
My biggest recommendation is....don't go for price, go for quality. Take someone with you to try the machine that knows your voice and has a good ear for sound.
Marilyn K.
Response: A tip for working with seniors: For smaller venues where you think you may not need a sound system you still may. Put the speaker at the back instead of the front. This boosts your voice for those that need it most, those in the back furthest from you. You don't need much volume, just enough to sound natural and even out the sound over the audience. This doesn't work with larger venues because of sound delay. I use the Florida Magic system (fully contained 6 pound one piece package (see http://drango.com/tips click on "Mic & Amp issues") which is ideal.
Headset mics are nice. I have one. The Florida Magic system comes with both a headset & clip mic. I rarely use the headset preferring the clip mic instead. The disadvantage of clip mics that sound changes when you move your head can be an advantage. In a story you may want to use a whisper or low voice. These voices have a different sound as well as volume. Moving you head so your mouth comes closer to the mic allows you to use this different voice characteristic while keeping the volume up. A whisper sounds like a whisper even though it is almost as loud as your normal voice. This takes some practice but give more flexibility than the headset mic. Big productions usually use headsets but they also have sound people to boost the sound. Most of us don't have that luxury.
Bob S.
Response: I have many tales of a sound system saving the day, here's one: I was asked to tell at a tiny library that didn't have room inside, so I told outside under a lovely old tree, but within a few feet of a busy highway. They did have a long extension cord (I also carry one with me --I think we had to use both theirs and mine), so I could use my little Galaxy sound system. The audience said they could actually hear over the noise of the traffic!
Once I wished I could have used my sound system: it was in a brand new library, which hadn't been completed--you could still smell the paint, and the bathrooms weren't even ready for the public yet--they had to go to a store next door if they needed to use the bathroom! The librarian had written to me earlier that I probably wouldn't need my sound system. However, the audience was quite large, the room had no sound absorbing books or anything in it yet--just big and empty, and there was a big truck parked outside the entrance that was running a loud motor! Luckily, I had brought my sound system anyway--BUT a very important part was missing--a tiny part, but important nonetheless--the little clip that held the tiny microphone to my clothing. The new library under construction didn't even have a paper clip to improvise with. The librarian assured me that I would probably be heard, so I opted not to just hold the microphone (which would have made it difficult to use my puppets). Then she had the audacity to say on her feedback form: "you were not able to hold the audience's attention. It was difficult to hear you in the back of the room." Well, DUH!
I think a good portable sound system is a must for a professional storyteller. Although I have learned to project my voice in theatre training, it takes much more energy to do so, and I much prefer to allow technology to project for me. Be SURE you check your system each time to see that ALL parts are accounted for--even the small ones. Also have extra batteries on hand if you use a remote mic (as I do).
Judith W.
Response: Luckily, I've been blessed with a loud mouth. But sound systems are a blessing when working in extremely large spaces, when my voice is not operating at its optimal condition, or around holidays when students are filled with more frenetic energy than usual.
The worse time was when the sound system emitted a high pitched squeal every time I turned it on. I simply went without sound relying on the power of my voice instead.
Another equally uncomfortable time was when the lapel mike was so sensitive, every time I moved, the noise reverberated throughout the auditorium. It didn't seem to perturb the crowd, but it sure was a distraction to me. I elected to tell without the help of the device!
Angela D.
Response: I have so many times when people have told me that "We have a wonderful sound system for you . . ." The worst result was when I was doing a town festival and I got there and they had an auctioneer's mic that you had to hold the button in to keep the sound on. I quickly told them that I had my own system in the car, and set it up. That is the advantage of having your own system that can be brought into play. You know your equipment and exactly what it can do. I use my system most of the time, but then I do around 200-250 shows a year and no matter how well you work to properly project, there is a real strain on the vocal cords with multiple shows in one day. I do not set the volume to project, I set it to be understood.
Steve O.
Response to Steve: Excellent advice, Steve. I know when I was telling at the Historical Hauntings, outdoors, with a sore throat, I used the mic for even tiny groups because there was only so much that Throat Comfort tea could do for me. The strain of projecting even for half a dozen people outdoors was relieved by the sound system. I think I know what I'll buy for my next big present for myself.
Mary G.
Response: This is not necesarily a tip - it's more of an endorsememnt. After reading Bob talk about his Florida Magic - I bought one several months ago - and I love it. Light weight ( I carry it in a large size back pack on wheels) sets up in five minutes and really does the job.
Ellouise S.
Response: Thanks Ellouise. The Florida Magic system was one of my best investments. I like to travel light and this does the job.
On a related subject. For those that like to move around and don't like to be tied to a mic stand like me, I have found that many times the venue will have a good sound system BUT no wireless is available. I carry to all shows a little $10 gadget called a Gim-Crack. This slips around the neck and the mic from the stand slips into it. Then you can move around the stage. There is a picture on the Tips web site under "Mic and Amp Issues".
http://drango.com/tips
You can order these from Al Good at:
Alton Good
5380 Swope Rd.
Chambersburg, PA 17201
(717) 375-2119
goodshow@yellowbananas.com
Al can still offer them at a discount.
Regular price: $12.00 each, but he sells them for $10 plus $2 shipping.
I consider this an essential part of my show kit. It has way more than paid for itself.
Bob S.
Response: This thread is turning out to be quite fascinating. I sent off the TIPS column to Grace with the info folks had, and since it's supposed to be only 600 words total, I think we filled it up -- to be appearing May/Jone!! Thanks again! These stories are the best, though, and will provide more of the motivation that I'll need to make a decision (and investment) in sound for myself.
(I'm thinking of using Showcase advice for the next one -- deadline April, publish fall?? What do you think?)
Mary G.
Response: Okay, here's a novice story. I still don't own my own sound system. But when I get great storytelling gigs, I love to treat myself to something cool to wear. When I told at Northlands Ghost Story concert the first time, I got myself a killer dress from the Daily Planet. It would add the right swoosh, and matched the mood of my story. I know, the story should come first, and it did, but why not use some rationalization in shopping?
Anyway, the problem was.....no pockets. The sound system we were to use was one of those where the best place for the little amplifier box was a pocket, out of the way. I tried to find a way to attach it somewhere, but ended up going back to my room and putting on a dress with a pocket.
So...we all know that pockets are good things for storytellers, now we know they're good for more than one reason!
Gwyn C.
Response: At one of our events, a teller in a beautiful flowing gown had exactly that problem. I sent my niece up front with her cute little purse, which did the job perfectly and was much appreciated. I have a small Guatemalan bag, sold as a sunglasses holder, I think, that would work well for that.
Mary G.
Response: I have a cute little purse that I take with me. It has a long, black spaghetti strap with an ethnic looking, velvet purse. It's perfect for the transistor.
Marilyn K.
Response: Oh boy oh boy, This reminded me of a story our dear and beloved Meg G. shared with me about her "hide the mic" episode. I won't spoil it. Let's see if we can nudge her out of her lurker mode to share. MEG....OH MEG.....come out, come out, wherever you are. * She is going to kill me.
Karen C.
Response: Do Tell, Meg. Now she can kill both of us.
Millie J.
Response: I'll only share the story because I am tired and overwhelmed. You'd never
have gotten it out of me on a better day!
Ok .. I was presenting a 2-hour workshop on therapeutic storytelling at a conference for medical professionals. The workshop attendees were neurologists, neuropsychologists, occupational therapists, speech therapists, social workers, etc. You get the picture ... basically a room full of white coats ... and me, the storyteller. But I didn't artsy it up; I looked very professional in a long dress, and had my overheads ready to go. (They like that stuff.)
As I waited off to the side at the front of the room for my introduction, I realized I had no pocket for the lav transmitter. This was especially embarassing since in a previous life I was an audio tech for CNN; I *know* better! But... I also knew how to improvise! As people were getting settled, I grabbed the transmitter and mic and headed for the women's bathroom.
Now *some* of you know what the inside of the woman's bathroom looks like during breaks at large conferences. Luckily it was towards the end of the break and most people were on their way to the next sessions. But there were still several dozen women crammed in front of the sinks, leaning forward to re-apply lipstick and double checking their eyeliner and mascara, and they were talking up a storm. A few of the stalls were occupied, but I found an empty one and scooted in. I clipped the microphone to the front of my dress, fished the wire down through the neck, whipped down my stockings, and ummm, yes... my underwear, and wedged the transmitter in the back of my silky undies.
Problem solved, sort of. I wasn't going to be hiking up my dress in front of the workshop room to turn on the transmitter, so I had to turn it on before I readjusted my undergarments ... in the stall of a very crowded, noisy women's room. I gripped my thumb over the microphone, turned on the transmitter and prayed that I could evacuate the room before anyone flushed, or made a loud comment about any number of topics that women talk about in the sanctity of the ladies room. (Why do you think we always go to the bathroom in pairs or units?)
And ... I made it!! I sighed with relief as I escaped through the swinging door, and I hurried back to my workshop room. And ... no one knew what I carried so close to my butt!! How clever I was!
The mic was on, but I waited quietly at the side of the room to be introduced. A friend (a speech therapist) slid out of her chair and walked over to wish me well. I told her I was doing fine and that ... I COULD HANDLE ANYTHING ... NOT NERVOUS AT ALL (GIGGLE) BECAUSE I HAD THE TRANSMITTER IN MY UNDERWEAR (GIGGLE) ... AND I GOT OUT OF THE BATHROOM BEFORE ANYBODY FLUSHED (GIGGLE) ... AND *NO ONE KNEW*!!! HAHAHAHA! AHAHAHA! . ... and everyone in the room turned and stared. Ooops.
Of course, overconfident and gloating, I had momentarily *forgotten* that the transmitter was on and that the mic was no longer covered by my thumb ... and ... OK... Now, let's introduce *this* idiot ... Meg G.! Ta Da! And as I walked to the podium ... I'm sure everyone was checking out my posterior ... was it really in there? What else did they think about for the next two hours????
I wish I could say I recovered my dignity but those of you who know me ... But actually the workshop was a success .... we gradually progressed from bullets on the overheads... to telling stories .. yes! they actually told! .. all those white coats! By the end, entire room was participating at the mere mention, and I even got them to squawk like chickens .. guess they figured if I could make such a fool of myself, they could take a risk.
A humbling experience .. but one I learned from ... and then there was the time I *did* have a pocket in my pants for the transmitter, but I didn't know it had a hole in it ...
Be well .. from one who is not afraid to appear foolish ... as my friends (and even my *enemies*) will attest to!
meg g. aka lurker aka wired undy girl
Response: I'd like to hear that story in person at STF! BTW I remember an article in Psychology Today stating that speakers who dropped their notes, picked them up, and recovered from the embarrassment were more popular with their audience than those who performed smoothly and flawlessly -- more human perhaps and gathered some sympathy and respect for their recovery. If just dropping some 3X5 cards can have such a good effect, just imagine the value of Meg's trick!! What a woman!!
Response: This reminds me of another story I heard recently, about a storyteller in a different state, who was so flustered after his performance that he left the auditorium with the wireless microphone still attached and still switched on, and went to the bathroom.
With the unit still on.
Oh, and yes, he DID wash his hands...
Leanne J.
Response: I had someone recently walk off stage and out of eye-shot but not ear-shot with the mic still on..."Well, that was crap" "Ahem, you're mic is still on!"
Marilyn K.
Response: This reminds me of the time I was in one stall of the ladies room and I heard a woman come in to the stall next to me. S he was on a cell phone, but I didn't know this and . . . thinking she was talking to me . . . I was answering her - until it became obvious that we were not connecting.
Mary K.C.
Response: Got to watch those "mic still on" moments. Many years ago there was a show, first radio then TV, called The Buster Brown Gang with Smilin' Ed McConnell. One day after the show was over, but the mic was on when he said something like, "That ought to hold the little bastards for another week." The next week the show was Andy's Gang with Andy Devine...Some of you will remember, "Plunk your magic twanger Froggie." from that show...
Bob S.
Response: That statement with the mike still on has been primarily attributed to "Uncle Don" Carney of WOR New York, a radio personality that I heard at the age of about 3-4 yrs. old in the late 40's. My parents bought a number of 78 rpm. records of his piano songs for kids about good manners, etc. They all got broken on a cross-country car trip. But this turns out to be one of those urban legends. There are a lot of references on the internet. Check out:
www.snopes.com/radiotv/radio/uncledon.htm
Sandy P.
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MICROPHONES: Query: I am in need of "advice" on shopping for a wireless microphone! Can you offer suggestions on something quality, light weight and affordable?
Debra M. 3/13/06
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Response: I took the headset plunge last summer. I absolutely LOVE my Mipro MA-705 with headset microphone. The single unit amp weighs about 15 pounds - a great improvement over my old 3 piece, 65 pound Crate set-up. It runs on battery and/or electricity - the battery holds for at least 6 hours. I invested in a stand for the amp, and am glad I did. The headset rests securely over my ears, with the microphone on an adjustable piece that sits in front of my mouth. I've had it outside for campfires, and inside for gymnasiums - works great in both situations. I have not yet been to a place where I had to turn the volume all the way up.
It's not a cheap system, but it has been a dream to work with. I can bring it to Northlands, if you - or anybody else - wants to try it out.
I'm selling my old system, by the way, if anybody is interested. (2-20 pound speakers and a 15-pound 4-channel amp/mixer, cords, and a Shure wireless microphone that needs repair.) But you'll have to come get it - I am NOT lugging it to the post office!
Leanne J. 3/14/06
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Response: For those interested in a light weight (5 pounds) powerful system I have used a unit that I got from Florida Magic. It is one piece (speaker, amp, wireless mic receiver) with a transmitter with lavaliere and headset mic. Runs on 110-240 vac and 12 vdc for use with a cigarette lighter or optional 12v battery so it can be portable. It accepts another mic or CD player etc. All for under $400!
See http://floridamagic.bizhosting.com/
I have used mine for years and our church has one for use various places we don't have a system. I have been able to use in a wide variety of venues, church sanctuaries, school gyms, et al. If it won't handle the venue they are probably big enough have their on system.
My tips site also has info on it and other Mic & Amp issues
http://drango.com/tips/
Bob S. 3/14/06
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Response: A lot depends on what kind of telling you do! I personally move around a lot and get into audiences faces, so I use a wireless headset. I have been doing this for a long time now and I have gone through wired headsets and three wireless headsets. I am currently using a shure PGX4 wireless transmitter and receiver with a Countryman headset. The new shure unit is unique because the transmitter is much smaller than the norm and is powered by AA batteries rather than 9V. The AA's last longer and are much less expensive to use. Keeping fresh batteries in the transmitter are a must! The Countryman headset is the one made famous by Brittany Spears. It is almost invisible and has the best quality of any mike I have ever had. The real advantage of the headset over a lavaliere mike is that the sound stays with you. When you turn you head or move it up or down with a lavaliere it will change the volume dramatically. The "invisible" headset solves the problems of the mic in front of the mouth that the old sets had.
This outfit is high end, but I got mine for $750 for the whole thing, including a lavaliere that I can use if I want it. That may sound like a lot of money, but I like the security it gives me and I figure it is a days work and I will be using it for years.
Steve O. 3/14/06
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Response: I have owned and used a Shure THS style headset microphone about 1999, more or less. I love it. I tend to be an active tellers and a anything less than a headset that stays with me results in cutting out, etc. There is a link in our bookstore at storyteller.net that I moved to the top you can look at, but you can find it anywhere that sells microphones.Steve Otto mentioned some of the newer versions of the mic's- I may look at those myself soon.
I partner this with a Fender Passport P150. Works great for most small to medium venues...anything larger than that should have their own sound anyway- but I still bring my microphone.
Sean B. 3/14/06
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Response: I took the plunge, after borrowing Sherry's for a couple of gigs (I just returned a cable that had gotten mixed in with my new stuff somehow -- oops).
I went with an Audio-Technica wireless system at McMurray Music Store in Overland, recommended by Bobby and a landmark from my childhood (they used to have Santa's legs kicking from their chimney).
Steve advised a Galaxy speaker from Musician's friend, smaller and lighter than the one the music store suggested. I just knew if I tried lugging around that one, I'd be saying words unbecoming a children's storyteller. I'm planning to get a headset sometime later -- fell in love with the Countryman at the church on Christmas Eve. Maybe they'll go down in price?
I also just bought a wheeled backpack from LL Bean, which fits all the pieces safely with room to spare for props. Sherry said she'll pick up something cheaper at TJ Max, but I have to order from folks who will check for latex. Also, LLBean guarantees for life!
Mary G. 3/15/06
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NEW QUERY:
I would appreciate any suggestions for a portable speaker system and mike that isn't going to cost me an arm and a leg, yet will provide quality service and durability. Recently my voice teacher suggested it would be a good idea to purchase one. My voice has been taking a beating at various gigs. I want to keep telling and not loose the use of my voice. Any suggestions as to how to prepare for telling would also be greatly appreciated.
Jim B. 4/4/06
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Response:
I bought a wireless mic at a music story and a speaker from Musician's Friend, and a rolling backpack from LLBean in which to haul it around.
Here are the details on my amp. This is from Musician's friend site. You could probably take this to a local music store and get the same price. Or ... Kansas City has a retail store for Musicians friend.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/compare?base_pid=601403&base_pid=421160
If you have any questions, please click here:
http://mf.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/mf.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php
Musician's Friend
931 Chevy Way
Medford, OR 97504
Phone: 800-391-8762
Fax: 801-501-9552
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/
Mary G. 4/4/06
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Response: Maureen B., one of the tellers in my guild demonstrated her highly portable and useful system, the Chattervox, which sells for about $200.
It's a self-contained device, about the size of a very packed fanny pack, that is carried around the waist (speaker side to the front), weighs about 2 pounds, has a headset microphone, and can really fill a room with sound.
I saw a similar product at the Florida StoryCamp, when one of our workshop leaders needed to make an announcement to a cafeteria full of people not expecting to hear one. It cut across the whole room just fine, and the sound quality was very natural.
Don't know what model she uses, but Maureen says her Chattervox was an excellent investment. The only drawback is the bulge at the front of your tummy, where the thickest part of the speaker assembly is carried, but wearing loose-fitting shirts will camouflage it.
No cumbersome equipment to lug, no multitudes of wires to connect and text, no feedback, no worrying about whether the mic will pick up your sound if you turn or move your head.
Billie S.N. 4/5/06
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Response: I bought a Galaxy CORE PA5X140 amplifier (Steve Otto recommended it), and have been very happy with it. It isn't terribly bulky or heavy, easy to set up and amplifies loud enough for most performance spaces. I then use a remote mic that I bought at RadioShack. It is not the best mic available, but seems to do the job for me.
Judith W. 4/5/06
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Response: I'd second Judith's vote for the Galaxy. I've had this for about seven years and am very happy with it. It weighs around 20 lbs, and is the size of a large shoebox. You can get it at music stores. I bought a speaker stand to use when I don't have an elevated place to put it. I also use a microphone on a stand (Shure SM58), which I much prefer to lavalier or headset.
Another reason I like the Galaxy is that the company is quite responsive. Twice I've had problems (not bad for seven years) and twice the guys at the factory have fixed it for free, saying it was still under warranty. The last time was last month, just before I was going to do a gig in Wichita (using my backup system). That's where the factory is. I e-mailed them and asked if I could bring it in. That was a Tuesday. They fixed it and mailed it back to me--it arrived on Thursday.
I asked if there was a reason it had failed, and they said it was unusual, but not anything I did.
They also have a new little deal called a Micro Spot. You might ask about it at a music store. I don't know if it does the same thing as the PA5X140.
Priscilla H. 4/5/06
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Response: You can get the Galaxy CORE PA5X140 amplifier from Musician's Friend.com for $299. I have used this model for many years and it is completely dependable. I carry it in the trunk of my car all the time, never take it out, so you know it can take a beating. It is small enough that it fits in a regular luggage soft side Cosmetic case along with cables, hand held mic and my wireless outfit. The quality is great and gives enough power to blast out a gym or soft enough to just allow enhancement of the voice in small groups. I am an "In your face teller" so I use a Countryman mic with a shure wireless receiver and transmitter. My wireless outfit cost $725 for mic and outfit but for me it is worth every penny. The Countryman is almost invisible and has unbelievable quality.
Steve O. 4/4/06
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Response: I'll second Steve's recommendation, Jim, I took his advice and got this setup, and it's been wonderful. It
came in especially handy when I was doing a concert at Christmas in an old auditorium where their sound system was just this side of a fast-food drive through speaker,
I sit my little Galaxy up next to the stage and everyone was thrilled at what they were able to hear.
They no longer thought about the sound, but got into the stories, which is what we're all about.
John 4/5/06
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Response: The Micro Spot is the unit that can be coupled with the PA5X140 to add power and split speakers.
Steve O. 4/5/06
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Response: I like mine, too. See
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/compare?base_pid=601403&base_pid=421160
and the mic I got at a local music store and the rolling backpack from LLBean.
I have to admit, though, that Billie's Chattervox sounds wonderfully simple, especially the absence of cords.
I'll tell on myself a bit. Sherry Norfolk generously loaned me her sound system, which helped in a couple of jobs where I really needed it and gave me an idea of what I wanted to buy. ("Sell me something just like this.") The next time we were to meet (to discuss workshop applications for 2007 conference in St. Louis -- y'all come!), she asked if I would check my trunk for a missing cable. Somehow I had managed to put her connection cord for the speaker in with all my new stuff. She was so sweet and understanding about it (I would have been frantic) and said that cord had been left behind before and had to be mailed back to her. I don't know how I mixed them up, and I don't know how she coped without it; so the idea of a completely together system does have an appeal.
BTW, when I was trying to test my new system, with no one around to listen for me, I hit upon the idea of putting the mic by the radio so I could do the listening -- so Garrison Keillor, though he doesn't know it, helped me test my new sound system.
Mary G. 4/5/06
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Re MP3
We still keep a few of the stories and some of the older Amphitheater interviews in RealMedia on the site www.storyteller.net . RealMedia is still very active, about 12% of the total visitors we get use RealMedia. It appears that they are mostly MAC users- although I can't be entirely sure. I don't yet see any reason to remove RealMedia- but I might in the future. I do occasionally post new stories in both WindowsMedia (which MAC users can use) and RealMedia. I've started to experiment in .mp3 format, but haven't made everything available yet in that format.
Sean B. 3/26/06
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Re CHATTERVOX
I want to thank you for recommending the Chattervox. I was very interested when you wrote about it a while back - I looked into, bought one and have been using it for three weeks. It's all you said it was - enough sound, lightweight (which I really wanted) and convenient. I am very happy with it.
Ellouise S. 5/5/06
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Response: Based on Ellouise's recommendation I ordered a ChatterVox. Some on another list wondered about it and I sent some info to that list. I thought some of you may also be interested in my observations so far. At this point I am pleased.
Sound-wise my shows fall into 4 groups. However I am not a performing musician so I look for sound equipment optimized for voice clarity rather than music quality. Too many people like heavy bass which in not the best for voice. It muddles the voice making it less clear. The best sound systems are optimized for what you do the most of. I am voice. I have background music but that is secondary. (Large professional systems like in theaters handle both well but smaller portable systems should be optimized.
My 1st group is large venues. These usually have good systems and mics. Maybe I'll need the Gim-Crack but usually what they have is good. I give the sound person my CD with the music. I do a few of these.
Second is large groups, school gyms, large library rooms, church fellowship halls, etc. They may have sound and even that varies. The Gim-Crack maybe, and more often the Florida Magic System. A CD player plugs into the system for background music. Very adequate and at 5.5 pounds and one piece it is very easy to set-up and use. I do many of these.
The 4th group are small venues that don't need any sound. Unaided voice is fine. The CD player (or MP-3) plugs into a Honey Tone amp and is fine for background music. I do a good many of these.
The 3rd group is my weak spot. Right around the edge of 1 and 3. On the upper edge of unaided voice but maybe not needing the power of the Florida Magic system.
Several example came up lately. The Mexican shows are a good example. I had a nice sound system built into the room. Only a hand mic but the Gim-Crack solved that problem. I generally did the early shows unaided using the Honey Tome for the music. I used the mic for the later shows when my voice was getting tired. This worked fine all but the last day when the mic was commandeered for use elsewhere before the last show. That was a strain as I was getting tired. A small portable system like the ChatterVoxwould have been useful then.
The week after I got home I was doing a show for a Turkish-American group. The venue wasn't large enough for the Florida Magic system. But as it turned out the noise from the men in the back made it a strain. A small system would have been good here.
These are the situations I am hoping the ChatterVox will handle. I will let you know how it ACTUALLY works.
Bob S. 5/10/06
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Response: Wow - what a complete analysis of sound venues and the chattervox. This is handy to keep.
Re: the chattervox case - once I noticed that the case sometimes pushed the mic connector out - I clipped the neoprene slightly to enlarge the hole and that has taken care of the problem.
Is there a way to address the battery charging issue for using the chattervox overseas?
Another question - I want to use my Ipod for performance music - the connector is too small for the florida magic in-put - is that a matter of a interface connector? Just have not been to the store yet -
Ellouise S. 5/11/06
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Response: I enlarged the hole also.
You can use throw-away batteries according to the ad. You may also be able to purchase an appropriate charger. I haven't checked that out yet.
Radio Shack has all kinds of adapter plugs and cables/ That is where I got mine.
Thank you for your mentioning this item on the list. It had apparently been mentioned before but I missed it. So far I'm glad I got it even though I thought it was pricey. If it does the job it is worth it. I've seen other similar unit on the internet cheaper down to $100. While I haven't tried them the Chattervox looks like the best. The charger, thinner, and maybe quality.
Bob S. 5/11/06
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